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Subject:Re: A small complaint
Posted by: TXWard - 14years 310days ago.
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GraysGhost wrote:
TXWard wrote:
TXWard wrote:
GraysGhost wrote:

You should worry - I cannot fly under my Country's Flag - I'm English but apparently England isn't a Country.

The Vatican City is - but England with the Queen of England isn't.

So three letters of your alphabet - think yourself lucky you have a Swedish Flag to fly under.

Not that I'm bitter or anything....


Now that the flags have been added, can someone explain how England, in its current non-devolved state, is fundamentally different than a Canadian Province, an American State, or an Italian Region? It is governed by the UK Parliament, which is different than the condition that Scotland and Wales have been in for the past decade or so.

Not that it matters much to me beyond curiosity, but just that so much ado was made about it but it seems to me the site was not in err previously and I'd like to be enlightened by those who know more.

Are any Brits pondering this or is the lack of response supposed to indicate a lack of a difference? I have to think there is some sort of fundamental distinction that can be made.


Sorry hadn't seen your posting.

Can you tell me the difference between Italy as a member state of the European Union and Texas a member state of the American Union?

A Treaty is signed, a common currency is used and is Italy actually a nation any more? If it is then why isn't England after a Treaty was signed and a common currency started in the United Kingdom?

If you say that it is because the Act of Union of 1707 was 300 years ago, then when did time become the deciding factor? 10, 20, 100, 200 years - when?

You see once Treaties are drawn up and signed the lines become blurred.

So England is a Country regardless of government, politics or treaties simply because it always has been. The provinces/states of the USA, Italy, Canada et al have never been real independent nations though I will concede that some City States do still exist - Monaco & The Vatican City etc.

So my understanding is that England is a Country, others are regions or states of a union, otherwise are you going to start asking questions about English Counties all of which have elected legislatures that pass local laws that are only applicable to that County?

Even I'm not that nutty


Member states of the European Union retain their sovereignty and representation of themselves globally in the United Nations and Olympics, correct? Texas, in becoming a state of the US, agreed to allow the United States to represent it on the world stage. Texas is governed at a national level by the United States; Italy is governed by Italy. Those are fundamental differences, and they do not seem to be the case for England, which is why I pondered the actual distinctions you are trying to make.

You state that "once a country, always a country", yet there are countries that no longer exist as such (e.g. East Germany, Czechoslovakia). Are you saying that the state of Texas, for example, should be considered a country still solely because at one point in time (during it's time as an independent Republic) it was one?

Country, nation, and state are terms that are often (albeit often erroneously) interchanged. We know there are many terms in British English and American English that mean completely different things, as well as items that are identical but use very different terms to define them. One has to wonder if something similar is happening here as well. That's why I am curious as to what exactly distinguishes England from being a "member state" of Great Britain.

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