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Subject:Re: my problem
Posted by: GraysGhost - 15years 38days ago.
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dcr66 wrote:
BlueDragon wrote:
GraysGhost wrote:

So Hubert,

I gather from your reply that when you say you work in IT, that you're a hardware engineer. You plug stuff into each other.

So you obviously don't understand how machines talk to one another or to the internet.

I fear that the tone of your post will appear a bit offensive to Hubert. I hope I'm wrong about it.

Anyway, indeed to connect to internet you don't just need hardware, but there's also a lot of pieces of software talking to each other, not just the browsers.
And all these softwares must behave friendly to each other to communicate properly
However, I think I can see why you and Hubert aren't understanding each other - I think you two had very different ISP experiences. I'll share mine, which is probably similar to Hubert's, at least in the final part.
I've had many different ISPs in all these years but I never had ISP software integrated directly into the browser as some of your posts suggest.
In my experience, a long time ago, even when some ISP software had to be installed on the PC, it was usually just a way to configure Windows' Remote Access and show you a different panel to put username/password when you login (it was basically just the same as Windows Remote Access login panel but with some ISP logo and colours).
So in these cases using ISP CD wasn't even mandatory, you could simply skip the automatic CD installation and setup Remote Access manually by yourself using the parameters provided by your ISP.
Once the Remote Access was setup properly, browsers would do just fine, with maybe one exception that I recall: if you had multiple dialups created in Remote Access, you had to tell IExplorer which one you wanted to use.
However, all this Remote Access stuff is about 10 years ago or more, Windows 98 and such
Back to 21st century, my ISP experience has been a lot easier: you just had to connect your PC to the gateway/router with an ethernet cable.
If DHCP is enabled, usually all computers will connect easily to the gateway like to any other LAN, without needing any extra piece of software.
The router (or gateway) so just exposes a "well known" way of communication (LAN with DHCP) to your PC, not some kind of ISP-specific interface, so no special software is needed.
That's why dcr66 posts talk so much about router/gateway problems and not about software problems on the PC.

Anyway, indeed not all ISPs are equal and I'm not that much surprised if you have specific ISP software on your computer, especially if your PC connects directly to the modem with a USB cable (is this the case?).



Thank you BlueDragon. I think our home internet configurations are probably very similar.

I am no hardware engineer and not really want to be one either. I know enough about it all these years to have many different pieces of hardware (PC, gaming consoles, smart phones, iPod, etc,) connecting to my home network and access the internet through my gateway (and the router/modem before). My DSL connection is thru the phone company over the old style copper wire phone lines.

As for my day job. I am a senior developer (for 10 years) doing dev work in ASP.NET, Silverlight, C#, VB.NET, Installshield, SQL Server, etc. I only know about the Microsoft Windows OS as the result.


As can be seen from my earlier post, my ISP provides software to allow me to use their service.

I would guess that I'm not the only one.

As I also said in an earlier post, I checked with my phone company and my ISP to find out what my problem was. The ISP then provided me with a fix.

I don't believe that I know what a problem is before I have looked at it.

My posts were designed to help Bombadil solve his connection problems as an alternative to simply blaming the hardware.

You see I run a Mac and a PC on the same phone line, so when the Mac works and the PC doesn't - it has to be the PC not the modem/router.

If you're wondering - I contacted my phone company to make sure I still had broadband and that they had not accidently dropped back to an analogue service - something that has happened before.

When I then spoke to the ISP I was in a position of knowledge knowing that the hardware was working.

Sometimes asking people the right questions, gets you the answers you need.

So Bombadil is reporting exactly the same problems I had - would suggest that the cure may be the same.

Back to the original problem though - despite our opposing points on the potential problems - have you fixed the issue Bombadil?




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