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City:Peterborough EN
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Area/Game:Blue Max
Topic:Program code error
Subject:Re: How did this happen?
Posted by: GraysGhost - 15years 336days ago.
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litehoof wrote:


Okay so I'm running at an angle to you - facing you all of the time, but you can shoot me in the back.

Not that.

Okay then I'm running at an angle to you, and turn to face you as you shoot and you can shoot me in the back.

Nope not that either.

Ah, while I'm running at an angle to you, before I turn, you shoot, then I turn to face you and fall over with a bullet in my back.

So that would mean that firing happens at any time during the movement and not at the end of movement.

Except, that if I had finished my move facing engine to engine with your plane, the engine hits would have been tail hits. So that cannot be right either.

So, let me get this right.

You're making this up aren't you.



Now you almost have it. The phase is after movement but it takes into account movement.
If I'm moving in a line and you run straight at me you have to either have be running parralel to me or in the same track I'm running. Or, you are running at an angle and I can hit you as we go along. And I wouldn't really shoot you in the back. Just the side and have it blow through your back, before going out the other side. So actually I could hit the side facing away from me too.
This has been brought up in the past and the arguement is always the same and the end result is that the rules say that deflection means that you can hit anywhere.




So I want to understand your logic here.

The rules state that because the observer is firing out of the side of his plane he suffers the deflection modifier.

You have therefore decided that this means that the observer can hit any part of the attacking plane regardless of their facing or maneouvre.

Even though the rules clearly state that if a shot is fired from directly in front no tail hits can be suffered, in effect this is ignored.

So if I fly directly towards the observer's plane for five moves doing a 2S2 and he does the same, but as we reach each other he turns his plane in front of me so he is firing through a side arc he can hit me anywhere, even in the tail.

You have got this wrong. Sorry. The allocation of hits over-rules the suggestion that an observer firing through a side arc and therefore getting a deflection modifier can hit an opponent anywhere. That is an interpretation too far and makes no sense to me.

It also explains why I find them so hard to fly against on this site whereas in the board game I have some success against them.

I play the rules as they are written for hit allocation and apply the deflection modifier to take into account the difficulty the observer has in timing his shot as his plane goes sideways.

This site is playing that the observer can hit anywhere on his opponent's plane because he is firing with deflection and ignoring the hit allocation rules.

Obviously one of these makes sense to me and the other doesn't.

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