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Area/Game:Blue Max
Topic:Rules
Subject:Re: Winning a match
Posted by: Tornade - 18years 214days ago.
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redwom wrote:
Thanks for the great link K. I never researched the "real" speech before. It was a good and interesting read.





ksnake wrote:
Tornade wrote:
ksnake wrote:
In any case, Patton did not say that. "Patton" said it. In the movie ...


most people have heard the quote from the movie...

but it has been attributed to Patton by many different sources...you are the first source to say otherwise


The whole opening monologue in the movie Patton was fictional (though based on a real one). In fact, it was added to the movie after the movie was complete. Now, I knew this from previous reading , but you can see the same here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patton_%28film%29

http://web.archive.org/web/20060427130404/http://www.knox.army.mil/museum/pattonsp.htm



thanks for the links

i read through them all and you are not being entirely accurate to say that the opening monologue is fictional...as the first link stated...
"The movie writers of Patton's famous speech, however, changed the wording here and there, often for the sake of toning it down and removing the general's obscenities."

as for whether or not Patton actually said the original quote...it is attributed to him in many different sources...including the Wikipedia one you first mention (though Wikipedia is perhaps not the most creditable of sources)
as to where and when it was actually said is not discussed and i suspect that it was added to the movie monologue for dramatic effect...not because it was said at that particular time


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