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Area/Game:Blue Max
Topic:Tournment
Subject:Re: BM 2010 WWI Campaign - Fifth Week - May 1917
Posted by: Rene_Fonck - 16years 146days ago.
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Mad_Bomber wrote:
TXWard wrote:
GraysGhost wrote:
brewk001 wrote:
BlueDragon wrote:
Templars wrote:
BlueDragon wrote:

BlackSheep wrote:

In case it is possible to have the statistics with and without the duels?

Yes, excluding all 2 players scenarios, the current results would be:
German 12431 vs Allied 11251 (+1180 German)
instead of
German 16716 vs Allied 17656 (+940 Allied)

So that's about +2030 for Allied in "duels", infact if we count 2 players scenarios only, we have:
German 4375 vs Allied 6405




Isn't a campaign that swings back and forth a bit more compelling? It might be important to also note that there are scenarios ahead, where skilled experienced German pilots will have an advantage over the Allies, and thus the pendulum swings.

Amazing this has become a forum issue.

I'd like to say that while I've provided the "duel statistics" in the earlier post, I've provided them only in answer to a request: I'm neither going to include them in the official page nor I will exclude duels in the campaign in any way at the moment. While indeed the Trip vs D.III duel is unbalanced, I see it simply as part of the war and who knows, maybe as Templars said there will be another "unbalance" later in favor of Germans. Indeed those duels seem to be an hot topic (maybe even too hot) but if possible I'd like to wait and see what happens in the long run instead of doing drastic changes like 'forbid 2 players game / separate statistics' etc



--- Message edited by BlueDragon


Agreed, there are many more serious unbalanced games in favour of the Germans. The initial German success in this campaign was due to the D.III shooting up single MG Spads and Nieuports for example. Besides, the Tripe v D.III duel is not that unbalanced. Although I have had great allied success with the Tripe, nearly all my German Ace kills were from this scenario.

It is also interesting to note that in multiplayer games this match-up swings to the Germans as two guns and a solid frame become more important than the ability to perform extreme turns.

The fact that this campaign is swinging one way then the other makes it more interesting. I think the best German months will cetainly arrive with the Fokker VII and Siemens-Schuckert D.III


In every duel I have played the tripe has won - and I've only played german once.

So no complaints here

And in every duel, the losing pilot voluntarily decided to take on the imbalanced fight. I'm not sure there is really much to complain about.

I have gone 4 games against a "newbie" with my Albatros DIII against his Tripe. He never shot me down once....killed his stats. Of course, I never shot him down either...he's still #2 in the Allied list. Haven't seen him try to fly the DIII vs. the Tripe yet...not what I would call a balanced choice of scenarios.

I've only been a member of this site for a few months, but when I set up a scenario, I do it from both sides...Tripe vs. DIII...DIII vs. Tripe.

I think it was Templars that said this...this is a "beer and pretzels" site. That's the way I look at it. I've signed up for some UNBALANCED scenarios, like 3 Brisfits against 9 Siemens DIs. Was doing ok until they killed my observer...

All I have to say is HAVE FUN! Some people take this place too seriously.

*salute* to all....


Actually Mad Bomber you have seen me flying in the DIII several times - but just didn't know it - your hint - go LSU Tigers

And, you were very fortunate not to get shot down in one of those games mate. That said you flew well and showed that a majority of DIII deaths are "pilot error" which happens under the duress of "Beer and Pretzels" warfare


--- Message edited by Rene_Fonck

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