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Area/Game:Blue Max
Topic:Tournment
Subject:Re: Campaign 2007 - Blacksheep Squadron is cheating
Posted by: Templars - 18years 155days ago.
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JackSparrow wrote:
Panoramix wrote:
Bubba6518 wrote:
"The dialogue in the game was exclusively regarding a pre game strategy email"

Sorry Saltylog, how you can think that we (91's or anyone)after about 8 days from starting game could understand you was talking about "pre game strategy"?????


Premessa: il mio inglese (pre)scolastico non mi permette di esprimere perfettamente alcuni concetti e, fra l'altro, non ho trovato alcuna regola che imponga agli utenti di youplay la lingua inglese. Se questa regola esiste, chiedo scusa a tutti; se non esiste, penso che le lamentele di alcuni utenti siano del tutto fuori luogo (se lo desiderano, possono sempre imparare l'italiano).

Questo messaggio per confermare, se mai ce ne fosse bisogno, il mio totale appoggio a Skunk nel presentare reclamo. Pur scrivendo a nome dell'intera squadriglia (consultata prima dell'apertura di questo thread), non vorrei che sembrasse l'unico ad essere contrariato dall'accaduto.

E a questo punto, solo due parole sui fatti: conosco vistualmente molti della squadriglia Blacksheep e su nessuno di questi ho mai avuto il sospetto di "gioco sporco". Ma la tagboard è più che chiara in proposito e perciò le conclusioni possibili sono solo due: o il gioco sporco c'è stato davvero, oppure hanno commesso un grossolano e principiantesco errore di forma nel discutere, otto giorni dopo l'inizio della partita, di una cosa che non andava nemmeno sfiorata in quella sede.
Nello specifico, è singolare il contrattacco di saltylog, che avrebbe potuto risparmiarsi un'arrabbiatura e fornire pacate spiegazioni sull'accaduto.

Ai posteri l'ardua sentenza, per quanto mi riguarda vorrei solo un parere dall'organizzatore della campagna.

Ciao.
Panoramix



quoto e aggiungo il mio appoggio a Skunk.
JackSparrow
91a Sq.

I haven't read all the posts on this subject yet, but it is one that needs to be discussed for future play. If I say some of the same things others have said, accept my apology.

I think its certainly possible to gain some questionable advantages in team play, if people really wish to. Finding out which direction or maneuver a teamate is going to use via email, cell phone, morse code, or smoke signals, would certainly come under the heading of questionable tactics. I don't think there is really a mechanism to actually prevent this - so we are stuck with an honor system.

I've always felt that one should be able to get more than one tailing piece of information. One could also imagine the use of hand signals in the air as to which way a squadron leader would want a plane flying alongside, to go.

I don't wish to use the word "cheating" but it is probably against the "code of chivalry" (another often discussed topic), to obtain information in the manner that has been shown. However, there is nothing in the rules against such modern communication in the game, so can they be blamed for exploiting a rule that actually does not exist?

I have discussed a squad cup game with litehoof of my own squadron and what might be the best strategy for him to use at the end of that game. I was not in the game, and did not discuss what litehoof decide to do with the other players of his wing, who were actually both out of the game anyway.

Such common sense fair approaches to discussing strategy, are completely reliant upon the honor system. As such, there probably needs to be a written code of ethics in regards to this issue for future situations.



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