That probably isn't necessary for now I'm thinking - better to appear as massive as possible for as long as possible. If we need to break off later then so be it. But every day our populations grow and we are seen that way by observers contemplating a raid the better. Then again, you are the old pro on this game so any advice is welcome. By the way Sven - I'm in server 3 and I don't think we have a BM alliance froming there. I'm up to 31 pop there.